hello folks.....so in an earlier thread i started, you'd realize that my father and i are quite close, we talk about almost everything/anything.. he traveled outside the country (he's semi-retired), enjoying the fruitage of his hard labor during his younger years.
so he recently returned home after he and mum went away to catchup with some old friends in another country.. upon his returning home, and subsequently to the meetings, he was told that a decision was made to strip him of his "field overseer" role, but will still continue to be an elder.. the reason...he goes away for too long too often...you can't be away from your congregation for three months out of the year!!!???
has anyone else had this experience before?
Hey guys...thanks for your responses....spoke with my dad and he doesn't give a care in the world! The COBE is behind it from what my dad told me. My dad is a no-nonsense kind of person and isn't really a push-over..he doesn't bow to the every demand of the COBE nor C/O.
He also mentioned that he listened in on the meeting held over the weekend regarding the new KHall designs
On another note, he's getting ready to fly out again
Keep you all posted.
Peace
Kool Jo
hello folks.....so in an earlier thread i started, you'd realize that my father and i are quite close, we talk about almost everything/anything.. he traveled outside the country (he's semi-retired), enjoying the fruitage of his hard labor during his younger years.
so he recently returned home after he and mum went away to catchup with some old friends in another country.. upon his returning home, and subsequently to the meetings, he was told that a decision was made to strip him of his "field overseer" role, but will still continue to be an elder.. the reason...he goes away for too long too often...you can't be away from your congregation for three months out of the year!!!???
has anyone else had this experience before?
Hello folks.....so in an earlier thread I started, you'd realize that my father and I are quite close, we talk about almost everything/anything.
He traveled outside the country (he's semi-retired), enjoying the fruitage of his hard labor during his younger years. So he recently returned home after he and mum went away to catchup with some old friends in another country.
Upon his returning home, and subsequently to the meetings, he was told that a decision was made to strip him of his "field overseer" role, but will still continue to be an elder.
The reason...he goes away for too long too often...You can't be away from your congregation for three months out of the year!!!???
Has anyone else had this experience before? I know in my case I stepped down as an M/S because my job had me all over the place.
My dad has sacrificed a lot for this specific congregation...and in all honesty, i'm happy about this, less stress for him as he ages (50's)...and more about enjoying his life, and less supporting the free-loaders who let him rack up miles on his vehicle to transport them to/from ministry.
Peace,
Kool Jo
today is my first post on jwd, i was one of jehovahs witness for almost 50 years of my life, i was born into the religion.
i was baptized at a young age and once i got married i was a very spiritual woman as they would call me.
my husband and i served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to international conventions, did some special pioneer service in other states in the us.
Congrats & welcome to freedom!!!
Kool Jo
well, it's finally happened!.
im no longer an ms.. as many would know from our chats via this forum, i've seen it coming for a while....and while the way it was done stinks, i'm really happy to finally be free!.
(would love to share more details...i will do in time...or perhaps a pm would be best).
Congrats...I know the feeling!
Kool Jo
hey folks......has anyone else heard of, or experienced this before?.
i visited by parents over the weekend and accompanied them to their assembly....same rubbish spoken about since ive been born....obey the gb, donate your last penny, no education and be a pushover.. anyways, our assembly hall has lush vegetation and scenery, so i was more focused on that....i started dozing off after lunch, so got up and went walking, saw some older folks from the congregation i grew up with.. upon the conclusion of the assembly, wed normally leave out right after the prayer ends so as to avoid the traffic.
however, for this assembly he told me that hes gonna be a few minutes with the elders and branch representatives...so a few minutes turned into an hour..
My dad also mentioned that other congregations are behind, but we're on the radar because of the amount we owe...and had a meeting specifically for the congregation....so the thing my dad doesn't understand is exactly can they do as that money aint gonna get paid???
He also mentioned that the COBE was a kiss-ass and threw the other elders under the bus in the meeting and that they're selling both of the assembly sites that serve this area...
Well, I guess my dad will keep me posted and I'll post if anything changes.
Keep ya'll posted.
Kool Jo
hey folks......has anyone else heard of, or experienced this before?.
i visited by parents over the weekend and accompanied them to their assembly....same rubbish spoken about since ive been born....obey the gb, donate your last penny, no education and be a pushover.. anyways, our assembly hall has lush vegetation and scenery, so i was more focused on that....i started dozing off after lunch, so got up and went walking, saw some older folks from the congregation i grew up with.. upon the conclusion of the assembly, wed normally leave out right after the prayer ends so as to avoid the traffic.
however, for this assembly he told me that hes gonna be a few minutes with the elders and branch representatives...so a few minutes turned into an hour..
Thanks for your feedback folks....I'm wondering what they could possibly do to the local elders or the congregation in the event of non-payment? The congregation has 5 elders and 2 m.s.
hey folks......has anyone else heard of, or experienced this before?.
i visited by parents over the weekend and accompanied them to their assembly....same rubbish spoken about since ive been born....obey the gb, donate your last penny, no education and be a pushover.. anyways, our assembly hall has lush vegetation and scenery, so i was more focused on that....i started dozing off after lunch, so got up and went walking, saw some older folks from the congregation i grew up with.. upon the conclusion of the assembly, wed normally leave out right after the prayer ends so as to avoid the traffic.
however, for this assembly he told me that hes gonna be a few minutes with the elders and branch representatives...so a few minutes turned into an hour..
I overheard my dad talking to the other elders in his congregation about this matter....they're all wondering how the balance is gonna be paid and sweating themselves...the elders seem to have gotten a whipping from the C/O...smh
hey folks......has anyone else heard of, or experienced this before?.
i visited by parents over the weekend and accompanied them to their assembly....same rubbish spoken about since ive been born....obey the gb, donate your last penny, no education and be a pushover.. anyways, our assembly hall has lush vegetation and scenery, so i was more focused on that....i started dozing off after lunch, so got up and went walking, saw some older folks from the congregation i grew up with.. upon the conclusion of the assembly, wed normally leave out right after the prayer ends so as to avoid the traffic.
however, for this assembly he told me that hes gonna be a few minutes with the elders and branch representatives...so a few minutes turned into an hour..
The site is up for sale....not sure if they've met with any prospective buyers as yet....but it's still being used. Only the grounds are being currently maintained....they other physical structure they've allowed it to deteriorate somewhat, even my dad noticed it.
Tere was an arrangement that the congregation would pledge a certain amount each month towards the assembly hall fund...hell, this side of town is still recovering the the recession.
My dad also mentioned that C/O had a harsh tone.....why wasn't I in that meeting
Peace
kool Jo
hey folks......has anyone else heard of, or experienced this before?.
i visited by parents over the weekend and accompanied them to their assembly....same rubbish spoken about since ive been born....obey the gb, donate your last penny, no education and be a pushover.. anyways, our assembly hall has lush vegetation and scenery, so i was more focused on that....i started dozing off after lunch, so got up and went walking, saw some older folks from the congregation i grew up with.. upon the conclusion of the assembly, wed normally leave out right after the prayer ends so as to avoid the traffic.
however, for this assembly he told me that hes gonna be a few minutes with the elders and branch representatives...so a few minutes turned into an hour..
Hey folks……has anyone else heard of, or experienced this before?
I visited by parents over the weekend and accompanied them to their assembly….same rubbish spoken about since I’ve been born….obey the GB, donate your last penny, no education and be a pushover.
Anyways, our assembly hall has lush vegetation and scenery, so I was more focused on that….I started dozing off after lunch, so got up and went walking, saw some older folks from the congregation I grew up with.
Upon the conclusion of the assembly, we’d normally leave out right after the prayer ends so as to avoid the traffic. However, for this assembly he told me that he’s gonna be a few minutes with the elders and branch representatives…so a few minutes turned into an hour.
Why??? So normally my dad is 99% composed and hushed about the meetings that take place, but this one got him ticked off. My dad is an elder, and the other elders from the congregation met with the C/O and branch reps…they were told that their congregation is way behind in their contributions/donations to the assembly hall fund…our assembly hall is up for sale and we’re expected to revert back to renting stadiums ect… for our “spiritual activities”. The congregation I grew up in is in no way able to pay up what they’ve asked for. The congregation is divided into the following: retirees, unemployed/underemployed and youths who’ve moved away to the city for jobs…so they were told they need to pay up their dues…my dad says he doesn’t care what they’re gonna do and told me he’s going out for vacation for a while. J
I was at a loss for words…but I told him, that the society is now reaping the rewards of the “no higher education” policy, hence the congregation can’t pay that amount from “window-washers” only. He hates the “no higher education” policy himself and has urged me to MBA and PhD if I want to, he also encouraged another young brother to move to the city to complete his degree.
So folks….there you have it…they were told they need to payup what is due and make some type of arrangement ASAP. I asked my dad why can’t the borg absorb the cost since they’ve made millions selling off their properties upstate…I could see he was bothered and flatly mentioned that he feels something is wrong, but can’t pinpoint it…I hope for the day that both my parents will wake up to the reality of this cult…I hope for the day I could openly tell them they’ve been duped by a cult, but that would break them too much as they’ve given quite a lot to the borg.
So since the congregation is unable to payup their dues….what could they do to the congregation or yet, the elders in the congregation?
I’m happy my parents are going to be traveling so they can get their minds off the borg.
Any feedback folks?
Kool Jo
there seems to be several discussions about a new 10 hour pioneer arrangement that was susposedly announced at the 2014 annual meeting.. i even called a couple who usually get invited each year and they said that there was nothing like that mentioned.
they just mentioned the "new" stuff had to do with the jw tv thing, the language app, the changes regarding gog of magog, the talents, the virgins, etc.
but absolutely nothing about 10 hour pioneers.. rub a dub.
I too would love some closure on this....Im hearing that this announcement was leaked but won't yet be made public or official until late 2015...others say that they've heard it from "well placed" sources.
It would be good to know if this is true or not.
Peace
Kool Jo
